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Post by spiderlink12 on Feb 19, 2020 1:20:34 GMT
So,hypothetically speaking,if i wanted to make a rom hack where the main goal is so everytime you change Soma's gear,then his sprites would change so that he's matching that said gear,for example,he's wearing the Eversing with the crimson cloak,so in the game his sprites would be of him wearing that gear,and then he changes to the pitch black suit and black cloak,so then his sprites changes again to that set of clothing,could i possibly do that with enough hacking knowledge and the right rom hack software to do so?
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Post by DarkPrinceAlucard on Feb 19, 2020 2:32:13 GMT
So,hypothetically speaking,if i wanted to make a rom hack where the main goal is so everytime you change Soma's gear,then his sprites would change so that he's matching that said gear,for example,he's wearing the Eversing with the crimson cloak,so in the game his sprites would be of him wearing that gear,and then he changes to the pitch black suit and black cloak,so then his sprites changes again to that set of clothing,could i possibly do that with enough hacking knowledge and the right rom hack software to do so? That would literally require VERY extensive knowledge of the game's core code to reverse engineer it so such a thing would be possible since with current hacking tools like DSvania while it does allow a lot of things it can not change the number of usable sprite pointers for Soma since you would have to edit the games core code to make the game know when to point to those sprites as well as tying the vast number of armors to a entirely different sprite sheet ingame for Soma which in turn would require you to have a working Sprite sheet for each and every piece of armor which would take a lot of work for any sprite artist since you would have literally have to make upwards to 1000 or more individual sprites to complete all those seperate sprite sheets, in short if you had that amount of hacking knowledge you would be better just making a game with such a feature from scratch.
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Post by spiderlink12 on Feb 19, 2020 2:45:59 GMT
So,hypothetically speaking,if i wanted to make a rom hack where the main goal is so everytime you change Soma's gear,then his sprites would change so that he's matching that said gear,for example,he's wearing the Eversing with the crimson cloak,so in the game his sprites would be of him wearing that gear,and then he changes to the pitch black suit and black cloak,so then his sprites changes again to that set of clothing,could i possibly do that with enough hacking knowledge and the right rom hack software to do so? That would literally require VERY extensive knowledge of the game's core code to reverse engineer it so such a thing would be possible since with current hacking tools like DSvania while it does allow a lot of things it can not change the number of usable sprite pointers for Soma since you would have to edit the games core code to make the game know when to point to those sprites as well as tying the vast number of armors to a entirely different sprite sheet ingame for Soma which in turn would require you to have a working Sprite sheet for each and every piece of armor which would take a lot of work for any sprite artist since you would have literally have to make upwards to 1000 or more individual sprites to complete all those seperate sprite sheets, in short if you had that amount of hacking knowledge you would be better just making a game with such a feature from scratch. So it is possible,but just not worth it kind of possible,huh... Cause i was thinking on at least doing the sprites as a way to get into sprite editing/making,and maybe even put it to good use by making a rom hack that focuses on just the sprites
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Post by I am Me on Feb 19, 2020 4:00:56 GMT
So,hypothetically speaking,if i wanted to make a rom hack where the main goal is so everytime you change Soma's gear,then his sprites would change so that he's matching that said gear,for example,he's wearing the Eversing with the crimson cloak,so in the game his sprites would be of him wearing that gear,and then he changes to the pitch black suit and black cloak,so then his sprites changes again to that set of clothing,could i possibly do that with enough hacking knowledge and the right rom hack software to do so? If you have reprogramming skills, maybe. But then I say make own game. HoD rotf is a proof that even small GBA rom can be extended to add new stuff, such as sprites or sounds, but such mods are one of a kind, just as their makers. Its been 10+ years since Tony made rotf and I never seen anything close to that. But what you want is even crazier. Why 3D games have costumes, while 2D ones mostly palette changes? Because for 2D if you wanna make dirty & scratched coat for Dracula Soma for example, you have to make whole sprite sheet anew. In 3D you can make model and rig it to existing skeleton. So In case of small changes for huge amount of equipment I can't even imagine how many sprites you would need to add and how bigger in size would rom become.
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Post by spiderlink12 on Feb 20, 2020 1:09:48 GMT
So,hypothetically speaking,if i wanted to make a rom hack where the main goal is so everytime you change Soma's gear,then his sprites would change so that he's matching that said gear,for example,he's wearing the Eversing with the crimson cloak,so in the game his sprites would be of him wearing that gear,and then he changes to the pitch black suit and black cloak,so then his sprites changes again to that set of clothing,could i possibly do that with enough hacking knowledge and the right rom hack software to do so? If you have reprogramming skills, maybe. But then I say make own game. HoD rotf is a proof that even small GBA rom can be extended to add new stuff, such as sprites or sounds, but such mods are one of a kind, just as their makers. Its been 10+ years since Tony made rotf and I never seen anything close to that. But what you want is even crazier. Why 3D games have costumes, while 2D ones mostly palette changes? Because for 2D if you wanna make dirty & scratched coat for Dracula Soma for example, you have to make whole sprite sheet anew. In 3D you can make model and rig it to existing skeleton. So In case of small changes for huge amount of equipment I can't even imagine how many sprites you would need to add and how bigger in size would rom become. Honestly the more i read this the more it motivates me to waste my time and do it
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Post by I am Me on Feb 20, 2020 1:46:09 GMT
If you have reprogramming skills, maybe. But then I say make own game. HoD rotf is a proof that even small GBA rom can be extended to add new stuff, such as sprites or sounds, but such mods are one of a kind, just as their makers. Its been 10+ years since Tony made rotf and I never seen anything close to that. But what you want is even crazier. Why 3D games have costumes, while 2D ones mostly palette changes? Because for 2D if you wanna make dirty & scratched coat for Dracula Soma for example, you have to make whole sprite sheet anew. In 3D you can make model and rig it to existing skeleton. So In case of small changes for huge amount of equipment I can't even imagine how many sprites you would need to add and how bigger in size would rom become. Honestly the more i read this the more it motivates me to waste my time and do it Good luck then. If you decide to make a game, you have many options to do so.
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Post by DarkPrinceAlucard on Feb 20, 2020 3:05:53 GMT
Honestly go for it if you want to, nobody here is trying to discourage you we are only letting you know how monumental a effort such a hack would be before you devoted a lot of your time to such a thing, as I am Me pointed out the most expansive hack created for cv in recent years was for harmony of Dissonance created by Tonyjih who had many years of experience in coding and reprogramming games which allowed him to manipulate the games core code to add new characters, gameplay and music to the game but that was 10 years ago and no cv hacker has had that level of hacking expertise since. What your proposing would be a endeavor even bigger since Tonyjih only had to change the code to compensate for 5 extra characters and their sprite sheets as well as adding ingame pointers for those characters and a few new music tracks and according to him this was no small task, you on the other hand will have to do something similar but instead of 5 new characters your essentially going to have to make 60 or more all with their own sprite sheet and Soma has a large numbee of sprites for each sheet. It's going to take A LOT of time and extensive research into AOS game code on your part which in turn could be a confusing nightmare unless you already have years of experience in coding games. But good luck to you on this, would be awesome if you able to pull such a thing off but I only wanted you to know what you where getting into beforehand.
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Post by I am Me on Feb 20, 2020 4:31:48 GMT
Honestly go for it if you want to, nobody here is trying to discourage you we are only letting you know how monumental a effort such a hack would be before you devoted a lot of your time to such a thing, as I am Me pointed out the most expansive hack created for cv in recent years was for harmony of Dissonance created by Tonyjih who had many years of experience in coding and reprogramming games which allowed him to manipulate the games core code to add new characters, gameplay and music to the game but that was 10 years ago and no cv hacker has had that level of hacking expertise since. What your proposing would be a endeavor even bigger since Tonyjih only had to change the code to compensate for 5 extra characters and their sprite sheets as well as adding ingame pointers for those characters and a few new music tracks and according to him this was no small task, you on the other hand will have to do something similar but instead of 5 new characters your essentially going to have to make 60 or more all with their own sprite sheet and Soma has a large numbee of sprites for each sheet. It's going to take A LOT of time and extensive research into AOS game code on your part which in turn could be a confusing nightmare unless you already have years of experience in coding games. But good luck to you on this, would be awesome if you able to pull such a thing off but I only wanted you to know what you where getting into beforehand. To add that Tony's working as a programmer, so its his life carrier, not just hobby. Also you would need to write your own code to make game change sprite during single playthrough. SOTN have it, but it only changing Alu's coat colour. Not the sprite itself. What would work is to make parts of Soma act as separate sprites. Example: weapons have different sprites, that change after being equipped. So if you cut Soma to pieces (separate head, arms, legs), then you can rewrite game & just as swords, those parts will change along with equipment.
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Post by Drameloch on Feb 20, 2020 4:50:46 GMT
Instead of do that hacking and if you know a lot of how to code i suggest to just go for programms that do games like Game Maker, Media Fusion, Construct, Unity and other more and make a game with that, if you know a lot of coding thats the best to do a nice game with a lot of new content, the reason i make hacks its because my coding is so so low.
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Post by spiderlink12 on Feb 20, 2020 21:22:32 GMT
Honestly go for it if you want to, nobody here is trying to discourage you we are only letting you know how monumental a effort such a hack would be before you devoted a lot of your time to such a thing, as I am Me pointed out the most expansive hack created for cv in recent years was for harmony of Dissonance created by Tonyjih who had many years of experience in coding and reprogramming games which allowed him to manipulate the games core code to add new characters, gameplay and music to the game but that was 10 years ago and no cv hacker has had that level of hacking expertise since. What your proposing would be a endeavor even bigger since Tonyjih only had to change the code to compensate for 5 extra characters and their sprite sheets as well as adding ingame pointers for those characters and a few new music tracks and according to him this was no small task, you on the other hand will have to do something similar but instead of 5 new characters your essentially going to have to make 60 or more all with their own sprite sheet and Soma has a large numbee of sprites for each sheet. It's going to take A LOT of time and extensive research into AOS game code on your part which in turn could be a confusing nightmare unless you already have years of experience in coding games. But good luck to you on this, would be awesome if you able to pull such a thing off but I only wanted you to know what you where getting into beforehand. Hey don't get it the wrong way,what i meant was motivating me to do a hack instead of an entire game by scratch,not that i would have been felt being discouraged at any point
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Post by xavierbelmont on Feb 20, 2020 23:57:20 GMT
Yeah I mean that's getting very technical and really none of the Castlevania is did that and like I am me said if you're going to do that you might as well just go and make your own game especially if you want a game like Castlevania but you want it on the game boy advanced format which I'm sure you could make your own game like Castlevania on the game boy advanced format but of course then again you don't still have to know how to program it and would also have to know exactly what you want it to look like and how you want it to run and you would have to go through trial and error until you got it perfectly how you want it which is really time-consuming but it might be worth it in the end.
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Post by DarkPrinceAlucard on Feb 21, 2020 1:34:24 GMT
Honestly go for it if you want to, nobody here is trying to discourage you we are only letting you know how monumental a effort such a hack would be before you devoted a lot of your time to such a thing, as I am Me pointed out the most expansive hack created for cv in recent years was for harmony of Dissonance created by Tonyjih who had many years of experience in coding and reprogramming games which allowed him to manipulate the games core code to add new characters, gameplay and music to the game but that was 10 years ago and no cv hacker has had that level of hacking expertise since. What your proposing would be a endeavor even bigger since Tonyjih only had to change the code to compensate for 5 extra characters and their sprite sheets as well as adding ingame pointers for those characters and a few new music tracks and according to him this was no small task, you on the other hand will have to do something similar but instead of 5 new characters your essentially going to have to make 60 or more all with their own sprite sheet and Soma has a large numbee of sprites for each sheet. It's going to take A LOT of time and extensive research into AOS game code on your part which in turn could be a confusing nightmare unless you already have years of experience in coding games. But good luck to you on this, would be awesome if you able to pull such a thing off but I only wanted you to know what you where getting into beforehand. Hey don't get it the wrong way,what i meant was motivating me to do a hack instead of an entire game by scratch,not that i would have been felt being discouraged at any point Well as I said earlier I wish you good luck on this, since you know what this type of hack would entail and still wish to continue than there isn't much we can do but hope for the best in your endeavor since none of us has the years of advanced coding knowledge you will need. By the way do you by chance have experience in advanced game coding?
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Post by spiderlink12 on Feb 21, 2020 2:03:47 GMT
Hey don't get it the wrong way,what i meant was motivating me to do a hack instead of an entire game by scratch,not that i would have been felt being discouraged at any point Well as I said earlier I wish you good luck on this, since you know what this type of hack would entail and still wish to continue than there isn't much we can do but hope for the best in your endeavor since none of us has the years of advanced coding knowledge you will need. By the way do you by chance have experience in advanced game coding? Sadly,no (which then i think if i try working on the hack full time from now on i would take around 2 or more years to finish) ,but on the other hand,what i do have experience in are drawings and some in digital art,so part of the problem won't be so hard for me
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