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Post by I am Me on Jul 11, 2021 15:42:37 GMT
You see, to me game franchises I play, be it Castlevania, Persona, Final Fantasy, Streets Of Rage, Tenchu, Tales Of, Trails, Ys, Devil May Cry or any other are likable because of what they have. It will never be something vague like "There is a guy with a whip hunting demons", no. It is because I like that certain character that I control, I like the story, I like villain. Gameplay to me is secondary & is barely important. I won't ever touch a game, where I dislike characters story wise or where I cannot play as a character I like the most. It is a waste of time. So I play Castlevania because I like Castlevania & it's stuff, there are things I may disagree with or desire to change, but overall it is a positive reception. So if I wanna see a Castlevania mod, I want it to use Castlevania content. If I ever want other game, I just play other game. There are countless of those, some I even mentioned above. As for novel about games, game is a game, so playing the novel is a bigger joy to me. uff definitely I will not play a game wich character design I don't enjoy. That was something to happened with the Mummy demasterd.. and I feel really bad about it because the game is hell dope in all ways posible. But I'm always open to new experiences and enjoy new characters... that's why I make this guy with the elements that "I" find more attractive for a castlevania protagonist, for me it will stay like that, as I already waste a lot of time making it and as a design is really attractive. And I want to push up the castlevania paradigm... they've been canibalizing the same ideas since sotn, most of the the games and hacks feature Alucard Richter Simon or some old character, are wasted ideas that they use over and over again... and I'm kind of tired of that(Btw I love those games any way and all the effort of the community for keep the castlevania flame alive is admirable). And I think that Castlevania is the castle, the atmosphere, the silky animated character, the tools for progress the adventure, the music. Alucard, Shanoa, Simon etc are just phases, chapters inside the whole thing. So I want something new and fresh... that's why I'm using 0 old main characters, maybe one or 2 cameos but that's it I wholeheartedly agree about Alucard/Richter being used way too often, but that's to be expected. It's always going into fanboyism because many people taking it all too seriously. But then we have enough of other characters - Maxim, Hugh, Albus, Isaac & many more. These are Castlevania characters & they deserve more attention & playability. What I consider most important for a game is to give player a choice about a side, like SOTN for example is good about that. You play the game as Alucard first, then you unlock Richter. You fight Richter as Alucard, then you can fight Alucard as Richter as well (doppleganger). Thus you have both sides to try out. I hate one man shows we so often seeing nowadays where just one character is playable & you cannot even control main villain & fight against protagonist, let alone try out various bosses. It is for me - player, to decide who to play as, protagonist or villain. If I wish to play as main bad guy & kill main hero, it shall be so. Or I just do not have any use for said game. Of course if would be awesome to play as insane Richter & kill both Maria & Alucard for a true bad ending, but that is what I have mentioned above about things I may disagree with, yet something I can let slide.
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Post by Locusbelmont on Jul 11, 2021 17:05:40 GMT
welp ... you have the hunteress girl who chases you around the castle and ultimately tries to kill you, she is reckless, with a strong personality (a piece of tomboy). its design is still in development but it is the closest thing to Richter that will be in the game. now i see that picture besides the new ones i made of azrael and she needs a heavy revision
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Post by I am Me on Jul 11, 2021 17:40:39 GMT
welp ... you have the hunteress girl who chases you around the castle and ultimately tries to kill you, she is reckless, with a strong personality (a piece of tomboy). its design is still in development but it is the closest thing to Richter that will be in the game. now i see that picture besides the new ones i made of azrael and she needs a heavy revision
View AttachmentWell here we can only see looks, but I personally judge character by their story behavior. I cannot tell if I like character or not by just appearance. I need know how will her story be, will that be level headed, cunning & extremely dangerous hunter, or a fool easily tricked laughed upon by her enemies? I can't say that by just looking at the character. Second thing is that in SOTN as I have mentioned you can play Alucard VS Richter & Richter VS Alucard. Both sides of the conflict are availible to the player. In AoS it would be hard to recreate. Will she be playable? Will player be able to control her & fight against main hero? That is what I consider important. I never liked to run circles around the castle collecting countless items, I pick only those I'm gonna use. I like to explore points of views. So when you beat the game with main hero, you unlock second route where you play as the main villain/rival/traitor & fight against protagonist.
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Post by Locusbelmont on Jul 11, 2021 17:53:23 GMT
well youll need to play the game to know... I can do very little about if you like it or not
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Post by I am Me on Jul 11, 2021 18:03:10 GMT
well youll need to play the game to know... I can do very little about if you like it or not Oh no, you can, just tell me the story. I do not care about spoilers, they not making the game better or worse.
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Post by sorrow on Jul 11, 2021 18:36:02 GMT
well youll need to play the game to know... I can do very little about if you like it or not Oh no, you can, just tell me the story. I do not care about spoilers, they not making the game better or worse. I’m sorry, I try not to get involved and argue, but honestly I am Me, this project is not for you obviously, so why criticize it? Locusbelmont is doing this personally as a fan project he wants to work on, with a brand new story that I’m sure he would like for people to experience when they actually play through the finished mod. I didn’t think it’s right to ask him to describe the entire plot to you just so you can decide if you want to play it or not. I don’t think you’ve actually said anything polite about his efforts lately, just criticism because it’s not a character you recognize. It’s simple, just don’t play it. But please, just stop talking down about someone’s hard work on a project they’re passionate about.
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Post by I am Me on Jul 11, 2021 19:00:30 GMT
Oh no, you can, just tell me the story. I do not care about spoilers, they not making the game better or worse. I’m sorry, I try not to get involved and argue, but honestly I am Me, this project is not for you obviously, so why criticize it? Locusbelmont is doing this personally as a fan project he wants to work on, with a brand new story that I’m sure he would like for people to experience when they actually play through the finished mod. I didn’t think it’s right to ask him to describe the entire plot to you just so you can decide if you want to play it or not. I don’t think you’ve actually said anything polite about his efforts lately, just criticism because it’s not a character you recognize. It’s simple, just don’t play it. But please, just stop talking down about someone’s hard work on a project they’re passionate about. I have absolutely nothing against what Locusbelmont is doing, just as I didn't tried to dictate him how to make mods. Do not put words in my mouth please. I make mods the way I want to & always encounrage others to do the same, without caring about anyone's opinion. I simply said I liked when there was Soma, not even once I have said that changing project to how it is now was a bad idea, or that it is becoming worse. Locusbelmont asked me why I liked it back then, so I explained why. I do not see how this is offending to the efforts he is making. Same goes about me explaining why I judge characters by the story. I never said design Locusbelmont made is wrong, only pointed out it is not Castlevania content, which is true. So I have no idea why you even consider that a criticism. I cannot give criticism to something I have no idea about. I do not know the story Locusbelmont is cooking up, which I have mentioned & asked him to talk about it. I have said I do not mind spoilers, yet I didn't said to just post the full script of the story here either. Modern trailers for games full of spoilers as is, I personally consider that to be ok. Then again, if you do not want to talk about the story, just say "no". It is simple.
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Post by sorrow on Jul 11, 2021 19:19:50 GMT
I’m not putting words in to your mouth, but when you say you’re not trying to dictate to Locusbelmont how to make his mod…
This is just copy/paste from your own post from a few hours ago, you said, “So if I wanna see a Castlevania mod, I want it to use Castlevania content.”
Don’t take my comments too personally, but I’m sure I’m not the only one who feels this way about your replies.
Either way, I’m not going to respond to anymore angry replies, I’m done discussing my opinion.
Locus’ Castlevania fan game looks amazing and I can’t wait to play the end result.
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Post by Locusbelmont on Jul 11, 2021 19:20:22 GMT
Hey... easy you two... All the details I can provide about the story are back in this thread... as I've show the first sprites I've talk a little about the characters and his story... the main plot is a clown dude lost inside a strange castle looking for the healing of a weird sickness that he and his sister have. Meet one of the castle master's servants who give him some clues, a mystery masked guy a kind woman and a little haunter girl (that replace julius obviously). Its tragic story and that's all the información I can give at the moment. For more play the game once finished the only thing I can promise is that will be awesome And as I say before, we are in a hacking comunity... so if someone don't feel comfortable with the actors they always can mod it
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Post by I am Me on Jul 11, 2021 19:30:27 GMT
I’m not putting words in to your mouth, but when you say you’re not trying to discrete to Locusbelmont how to make his mod… Thiis just copy/paste from your own post from a few hours ago, you said, “So if I wanna see a Castlevania mod, I want it to use Castlevania content.” Don’t take my comments too personally, but I’m sure I’m not the only one who feels this way about your replies. Either way, I’m not going to respond to anymore angry replies, I’m done discussing my opinion. Locus’ Castlevania fan game looks amazing and I can’t wait to play the end result. That's goes exactly to the reason I liked Soma there before lol Just mean he was there to begin with, it's already made, it's not like I'm ordering to put him there, let alone the fact that now there is Johnny boy too, right? So I don't see how it is can be considered a criticism?
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Post by I am Me on Jul 11, 2021 19:33:41 GMT
Hey... easy you two... All the details I can provide about the story are back in this thread... as I've show the first sprites I've talk a little about the characters and his story... the main plot is a clown dude lost inside a strange castle looking for the healing of a weird sickness that he and his sister have. Meet one of the castle master's servants who give him some clues, a mystery masked guy a kind woman and a little haunter girl (that replace julius obviously). Its tragic story and that's all the información I can give at the moment. For more play the game once finished the only Hong I can promise is that will be awesome And as I say before, we are in a hacking comunity... so if someone don't feel comfortable with the actors they always can mod it And that's perfectly fine to me, I don't see how we can't discuss a story parts at all, considering story is of utmost importance.
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Post by Locusbelmont on Jul 11, 2021 19:52:46 GMT
Hey... easy you two... All the details I can provide about the story are back in this thread... as I've show the first sprites I've talk a little about the characters and his story... the main plot is a clown dude lost inside a strange castle looking for the healing of a weird sickness that he and his sister have. Meet one of the castle master's servants who give him some clues, a mystery masked guy a kind woman and a little haunter girl (that replace julius obviously). Its tragic story and that's all the información I can give at the moment. For more play the game once finished the only Hong I can promise is that will be awesome And as I say before, we are in a hacking comunity... so if someone don't feel comfortable with the actors they always can mod it And that's perfectly fine to me, I don't see how we can't discuss a story parts at all, considering story is of utmost importance. well... the story here is directly rooted to this game only, usually castlevania games have a really weak story telling... since LoI all the new castlevanias are just famboyism everywhere, all the games have allusion to some old fight, some old hunter, some legend you play back in the 90s, the only two that differ are CotM and OoE and any way are not the best stories ever made, now in here I'll use every element the game give me to tell a tale. From enemies and items descriptions to the scenarios. Because this game is not about the belmonts or Dracula, this game is about ME and Castlevania. So, sorry but I can't discuss the story I can only say that is mind blowing
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Post by anorak00 on Jul 11, 2021 20:53:51 GMT
I’m sorry, I try not to get involved and argue, but honestly I am Me, this project is not for you obviously, so why criticize it? Locusbelmont is doing this personally as a fan project he wants to work on, with a brand new story that I’m sure he would like for people to experience when they actually play through the finished mod. I didn’t think it’s right to ask him to describe the entire plot to you just so you can decide if you want to play it or not. I don’t think you’ve actually said anything polite about his efforts lately, just criticism because it’s not a character you recognize. It’s simple, just don’t play it. But please, just stop talking down about someone’s hard work on a project they’re passionate about. I have absolutely nothing against what Locusbelmont is doing, just as I didn't tried to dictate him how to make mods. Do not put words in my mouth please. I make mods the way I want to & always encounrage others to do the same, without caring about anyone's opinion. I simply said I liked when there was Soma, not even once I have said that changing project to how it is now was a bad idea, or that it is becoming worse. Locusbelmont asked me why I liked it back then, so I explained why. I do not see how this is offending to the efforts he is making. Same goes about me explaining why I judge characters by the story. I never said design Locusbelmont made is wrong, only pointed out it is not Castlevania content, which is true. So I have no idea why you even consider that a criticism. I cannot give criticism to something I have no idea about. I do not know the story Locusbelmont is cooking up, which I have mentioned & asked him to talk about it. I have said I do not mind spoilers, yet I didn't said to just post the full script of the story here either. Modern trailers for games full of spoilers as is, I personally consider that to be ok. Then again, if you do not want to talk about the story, just say "no". It is simple. This makes alot of sense tbh. Not to be on anyones sides but yeah, i am me was only asking and not really demanding anything. He also jusy literally answered the question that locus was shooting. In my opinion why it looks like i am me is kinda "looking down" on the work is because the answers/questions are straight to the point and no beating around the bush while being supported by his opinion on what hed like to see in a modded cv game. All i see was professional banter among the 2 modders. Well atleast in my perspective as a 3rd party.
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Post by I am Me on Jul 12, 2021 3:42:45 GMT
I have absolutely nothing against what Locusbelmont is doing, just as I didn't tried to dictate him how to make mods. Do not put words in my mouth please. I make mods the way I want to & always encounrage others to do the same, without caring about anyone's opinion. I simply said I liked when there was Soma, not even once I have said that changing project to how it is now was a bad idea, or that it is becoming worse. Locusbelmont asked me why I liked it back then, so I explained why. I do not see how this is offending to the efforts he is making. Same goes about me explaining why I judge characters by the story. I never said design Locusbelmont made is wrong, only pointed out it is not Castlevania content, which is true. So I have no idea why you even consider that a criticism. I cannot give criticism to something I have no idea about. I do not know the story Locusbelmont is cooking up, which I have mentioned & asked him to talk about it. I have said I do not mind spoilers, yet I didn't said to just post the full script of the story here either. Modern trailers for games full of spoilers as is, I personally consider that to be ok. Then again, if you do not want to talk about the story, just say "no". It is simple. This makes alot of sense tbh. Not to be on anyones sides but yeah, i am me was only asking and not really demanding anything. He also jusy literally answered the question that locus was shooting. In my opinion why it looks like i am me is kinda "looking down" on the work is because the answers/questions are straight to the point and no beating around the bush while being supported by his opinion on what hed like to see in a modded cv game. All i see was professional banter among the 2 modders. Well atleast in my perspective as a 3rd party. Thanks, anorak00! That is basically what I think disscussion should be about, facts. Like I do not see any point in "spoiler free review", I do not need anyone's opinion, I have mine. Saying "Game is 10/10" or "Game is utter garbage" means nothing, those words have no value. I want to hear the truth about the game. And that is not possible without spoiling the thing. Like Circle of the Moon have lack of playable content & no second character to control or a proper unlockable mode with something actually new outside of shooter (you cannot get it's content in normal game). You can say game is ok with just one character - Nate, I say it is not enough, those will be our opinions. But the fact of the game lacking playable content is not gonna change. Many CV games prior already had several playable characters & COTM was a serious step back in that regard. For example I never seen a SOTN review with a truth about Richter mode power up being bugged & useless in eng version. Or Ecclesia review with truth about Albus mode being unfinished with player not having the access to half of Albus's moveset. And trust me, modern games are not any better. For example in Streets Of Rage 4 (2020) playable Retro Shiva does NOT have a voice, official playable character. This is just laughable. Devs were really lazy, this is direct disrespect towards the player. But boss Shiva from SoR2 used in a single non mandatory stage have all voices & skills. So what does it tell us gamers? Devs consider bosses to be more important, than characters we players control. I have yet to see a single review for SoR4 with facts, instead of opinions. If you saying you like/dislike the game, but can't support it with facts from said game, it all just uselss trash talk. If ya ask me why I like or dislike a game or a character, I will never just answer "Best game" "This game is sh!t", I always can explain why I like or dislike something.
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Post by Locusbelmont on Jul 12, 2021 12:17:05 GMT
Ejem... please this thread is to talk about the hack that names it, if someone want to complain about something else make a thread in the general section. About second characters playability, don't expect to much besides a kind of Julius mode. The game in general will he dope... that's all I can say, and I prove it, just see the modifications I already made.
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