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Post by 2ez on Apr 21, 2022 6:27:54 GMT
Hello! May I ask if anyone knows how to edit sprites after patching with Dawn of Sorrow Definitive Edition + (Definitive Mode)? DSVEdit and The patched rom can't seem to agree with eachother as trying to edit sprites AFTER patching doesn't work because DSVEdit doesn't recognize the rom anymore after patching and trying to patch the patched rom with edited sprites just causes the edited sprite to completely vanish in-game. SOS  |
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Post by Serbagz on Apr 21, 2022 10:45:34 GMT
They do it to protect their stuff from people who like to take the assets they work hard making and use/release it in other romhacks without permission. If you understand then you should figure it out on your own.
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Post by shametal on Dec 27, 2022 21:39:24 GMT
They do it to protect their stuff from people who like to take the assets they work hard making and use/release it in other romhacks without permission. If you understand then you should figure it out on your own. I can't understand modders who don't want others to do mods on their mods, it's literally hypocrisy pure and simple modding is modifying the work of others, I think it's wrong not to give credit for that of course, but there should be many people doing mods for castlevania who are bad at themes like code, I've seen several modders like that and it doesn't make sense, obviously no modder has asked Konami for permission to do any hack and they are the only ones who could say something. It's nothing personal with you, you're just explaining why, but it's an issue I don't understand, since nobody gains anything from moding, it's all done to pass the boredom.
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Post by D3 on Dec 28, 2022 21:33:34 GMT
They do it to protect their stuff from people who like to take the assets they work hard making and use/release it in other romhacks without permission. If you understand then you should figure it out on your own. I can't understand modders who don't want others to do mods on their mods, it's literally hypocrisy pure and simple modding is modifying the work of others, I think it's wrong not to give credit for that of course, but there should be many people doing mods for castlevania who are bad at themes like code, I've seen several modders like that and it doesn't make sense, obviously no modder has asked Konami for permission to do any hack and they are the only ones who could say something. It's nothing personal with you, you're just explaining why, but it's an issue I don't understand, since nobody gains anything from moding, it's all done to pass the boredom.
Anyone could just literally ask me if they want a modifiable ROM of DE+, though. Through DMs or whatever else that's private enough |
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Post by shametal on Dec 28, 2022 22:25:22 GMT
I can't understand modders who don't want others to do mods on their mods, it's literally hypocrisy pure and simple modding is modifying the work of others, I think it's wrong not to give credit for that of course, but there should be many people doing mods for castlevania who are bad at themes like code, I've seen several modders like that and it doesn't make sense, obviously no modder has asked Konami for permission to do any hack and they are the only ones who could say something. It's nothing personal with you, you're just explaining why, but it's an issue I don't understand, since nobody gains anything from moding, it's all done to pass the boredom.
Anyone could just literally ask me if they want a modifiable ROM of DE+, though. Through DMs or whatever else that's private enough I wasn't talking about you specifically, I was talking in general about the fact that a moder doesn't want his mod to be modded,it goes against everything that modding is in my opinion, when a moder does exactly that , modding other people's stuff. Obviously, if you would pass a moddable ROM to someone privately, I understand that you do it to keep track of who does it and you get the credits you deserve, so what I said was not about you then. |
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Post by Serbagz on Dec 29, 2022 5:36:00 GMT
They do it to protect their stuff from people who like to take the assets they work hard making and use/release it in other romhacks without permission. If you understand then you should figure it out on your own. I can't understand modders who don't want others to do mods on their mods, it's literally hypocrisy pure and simple modding is modifying the work of others, I think it's wrong not to give credit for that of course, but there should be many people doing mods for castlevania who are bad at themes like code, I've seen several modders like that and it doesn't make sense, obviously no modder has asked Konami for permission to do any hack and they are the only ones who could say something. It's nothing personal with you, you're just explaining why, but it's an issue I don't understand, since nobody gains anything from moding, it's all done to pass the boredom.
The way I see it, I paid for the games I mod. No one ever paid me for my custom animations, edits or sprites anywhere. Least one could do is ask permission before they go and steal stuff they feel entitled to for some reason. But ya, I am the same as Dedede. Honestly don't care, just dont pretend you made something you didn't, that is just weird. |
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Post by shametal on Dec 29, 2022 17:35:08 GMT
I can't understand modders who don't want others to do mods on their mods, it's literally hypocrisy pure and simple modding is modifying the work of others, I think it's wrong not to give credit for that of course, but there should be many people doing mods for castlevania who are bad at themes like code, I've seen several modders like that and it doesn't make sense, obviously no modder has asked Konami for permission to do any hack and they are the only ones who could say something. It's nothing personal with you, you're just explaining why, but it's an issue I don't understand, since nobody gains anything from moding, it's all done to pass the boredom.
The way I see it, I paid for the games I mod. No one ever paid me for my custom animations, edits or sprites anywhere. Least one could do is ask permission before they go and steal stuff they feel entitled to for some reason. But ya, I am the same as Dedede. Honestly don't care, just dont pretend you made something you didn't, that is just weird. When you pay for a game you pay for the right to play it, not for modify it. Making mods is cool it gives variety when playing a game, it's good for everyone that someone takes a mod and modifies it more to make something new. What is wrong is to say that you have done something that someone else has done so it is very important to give credit to the person who did the work, but if I get a hack, I use it only to skip some code that I do not know how to do and everything else I do, both sprites and animations or other changes, as long as I give the credits of the used part of the previous hack/mod to the original modder, I don't see who that can hurt and I don't see the need to ask for permission since as I said before Konami has not given permission to anyone to modify anything (I have made a great effort to give the pertinent credits for what you have not done, of course). In fact in the RHDN rules it says that everything that is uploaded there is open source: "Copyright Claims and Licensing
RHDN files are believed to be public domain, freeware, or contain license for distribution."
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Post by Serbagz on Dec 29, 2022 20:53:03 GMT
The way I see it, I paid for the games I mod. No one ever paid me for my custom animations, edits or sprites anywhere. Least one could do is ask permission before they go and steal stuff they feel entitled to for some reason. But ya, I am the same as Dedede. Honestly don't care, just dont pretend you made something you didn't, that is just weird. When you pay for a game you pay for the right to play it, not for modify it. Making mods is cool it gives variety when playing a game, it's good for everyone that someone takes a mod and modifies it more to make something new. What is wrong is to say that you have done something that someone else has done so it is very important to give credit to the person who did the work, but if I get a hack, I use it only to skip some code that I do not know how to do and everything else I do, both sprites and animations or other changes, as long as I give the credits of the used part of the previous hack/mod to the original modder, I don't see who that can hurt and I don't see the need to ask for permission since as I said before Konami has not given permission to anyone to modify anything (I have made a great effort to give the pertinent credits for what you have not done, of course). In fact in the RHDN rules it says that everything that is uploaded there is open source: "Copyright Claims and Licensing
RHDN files are believed to be public domain, freeware, or contain license for distribution."
Oh, I see now. You're that guy that has been taking Oersteds hacks, changing the sprites and reuploading them right? You wouldn't have to deal with his drama at all if u spent 10 minutes figuring out how to make your own stuff. Lots of people in the community willing to help too, you like Oersteds hacks? and taking them and swapping the sprites right? I doubt he even wants to keep making them now because of the drama you needlessly started. You are involving your own feelings and ideals into something already established on every community hacking site, the norm is to get permission to take peoples stuff, if you go on FEuniverse, take another hacks portraits and sprites and just shove them into your hack without permission and upload it they would remove your hack. feuniverse.us/t/the-rules/5425 see the section that says "Post your own stuff" If you go to SMWcentral they literally state "Any SMW Central user, including SMW Central staff members, may update your file during a remoderation event or to correct explicit performance failures. For all other updates, your permission is required, unless your account is not active. For the purposes of this license, an "active account" is defined as any individual user's account which has been logged into at any point within the last six months as aligned with server time." www.smwcentral.net/?p=cms&page=1417699-site-wide-rules--terms-of-useIf you go to metroid constructions rules: forum.metroidconstruction.com/index.php/topic,3.0.html 7. No Plagiarism - This is a big one. We do not tolerate claiming one another's work as their own - be it a hack, patch, tileset, wallpaper, etcetera. If a claim of said crime comes up, we will investigate the matter as much as we possibly can and rule as thus. Violators should assume that they will receive some of the heaviest punishments available if they commit plagiarism in any form. Even RHDN specifies that they only >>BELIEVE<< there files are freeware, many of the things hosted on there aren't. Many hacks with unmodified sprites and music lifted from other games. This is how they protect themselves from the law, by saying that they are community maintained and that they believe everything on there is freeware. If the argument is that Oersteds hacks are freeware I doubt that is true considering they are characters owned by other game companies and the data for them is inside the patch posted on the website, that would apply to your sprite swaps of his hacks too. "Every contributor should be listed, including the single ‘members’ of label-groups like Aeon Genesis." From what I saw you did not credit Oersted properly either. If you had it should say: "Romhack made by Oersted, I just changed the sprites." On top of this though proper etiquette on RHDN when modifying someone else s hack is to make your changes on top of his hack (this is called an addendum), not take his hack, make your changes, and include both hacks in one patch as you have done.
I get the "Ohh I should be able to yoink whatever I want" mentality but I find it really immature to think that way. Lemme ask you, why do you think these websites all require you to get permission before you steal other peoples things? |
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Post by shametal on Dec 29, 2022 21:37:00 GMT
When you pay for a game you pay for the right to play it, not for modify it. Making mods is cool it gives variety when playing a game, it's good for everyone that someone takes a mod and modifies it more to make something new. What is wrong is to say that you have done something that someone else has done so it is very important to give credit to the person who did the work, but if I get a hack, I use it only to skip some code that I do not know how to do and everything else I do, both sprites and animations or other changes, as long as I give the credits of the used part of the previous hack/mod to the original modder, I don't see who that can hurt and I don't see the need to ask for permission since as I said before Konami has not given permission to anyone to modify anything (I have made a great effort to give the pertinent credits for what you have not done, of course). In fact in the RHDN rules it says that everything that is uploaded there is open source: "Copyright Claims and Licensing
RHDN files are believed to be public domain, freeware, or contain license for distribution."
Oh, I see now. You're that guy that has been taking Oersteds hacks, changing the sprites and reuploading them right? You wouldn't have to deal with his drama at all if u spent 10 minutes figuring out how to make your own stuff. Lots of people in the community willing to help too, you like Oersteds hacks? and taking them and swapping the sprites right? I doubt he even wants to keep making them now because of the drama you needlessly started. You are involving your own feelings and ideals into something already established on every community hacking site, the norm is to get permission to take peoples stuff, if you go on FEuniverse, take another hacks portraits and sprites and just shove them into your hack without permission and upload it they would remove your hack. feuniverse.us/t/the-rules/5425 see the section that says "Post your own stuff" If you go to SMWcentral they literally state "Any SMW Central user, including SMW Central staff members, may update your file during a remoderation event or to correct explicit performance failures. For all other updates, your permission is required, unless your account is not active. For the purposes of this license, an "active account" is defined as any individual user's account which has been logged into at any point within the last six months as aligned with server time." www.smwcentral.net/?p=cms&page=1417699-site-wide-rules--terms-of-useIf you go to metroid constructions rules: forum.metroidconstruction.com/index.php/topic,3.0.html 7. No Plagiarism - This is a big one. We do not tolerate claiming one another's work as their own - be it a hack, patch, tileset, wallpaper, etcetera. If a claim of said crime comes up, we will investigate the matter as much as we possibly can and rule as thus. Violators should assume that they will receive some of the heaviest punishments available if they commit plagiarism in any form. Even RHDN specifies that they only >>BELIEVE<< there files are freeware, many of the things hosted on there aren't. Many hacks with unmodified sprites and music lifted from other games. This is how they protect themselves from the law, by saying that they are community maintained and that they believe everything on there is freeware. If the argument is that Oersteds hacks are freeware I doubt that is true considering they are characters owned by other game companies and the data for them is inside the patch posted on the website, that would apply to your sprite swaps of his hacks too. "Every contributor should be listed, including the single ‘members’ of label-groups like Aeon Genesis." From what I saw you did not credit Oersted properly either. If you had it should say: "Romhack made by Oersted, I just changed the sprites." On top of this though proper etiquette on RHDN when modifying someone else s hack is to make your changes on top of his hack (this is called an addendum), not take his hack, make your changes, and include both hacks in one patch as you have done.
I get the "Ohh I should be able to yoink whatever I want" mentality but I find it really immature to think that way. Lemme ask you, why do you think these websites all require you to get permission before you steal other peoples things? No, I didn't take Oersted's hacks, I changed the sprites and resubbed it, that's what he says, I changed sprites, changed skills, changed animations by setting speeds and changed other necessary character parameters, I used his hack just because I don't know how to remove Julius' whip, it's the only thing of my hacks that is from his hack. Not only I gave him credits saying that I had used his hack as a base but the first thing I did when I did it was to tell him, in fact if I had not given him credits I would not have told him nor he would have found out because my hacks as much as I have used the whip part to make them the rest is totally different, however he has been angry and lies saying that I did not give him credits, his drama is not my problem I did things right. The castlevania is not the first game for which I make mods and that the 1st rule is to ask permission I had never heard and in RDHN in the rules says that you have to give credits but nothing permission. I have used a hack of yours to make a bypass for the theme of the whip does not make mine plagiarism. precisely the fact that to make a hack we use characters from castlevania and other games without permission from their creators makes it very, very hypocritical for a moder to get angry for not asking permission. I have seen that there is tutorial to put the superjump but there is none for the latigo, before using another hack to make mine I was looking for, the hacks I make them to play and I upload them so that others can if they want because that is what the modder community is about, if they were simple resprites they would not be worth for me to play nor me And I repeat that I gave credit for what I used so I did not claim anything that I did not do as mine.
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Post by Serbagz on Dec 29, 2022 21:47:37 GMT
Oh, I see now. You're that guy that has been taking Oersteds hacks, changing the sprites and reuploading them right? You wouldn't have to deal with his drama at all if u spent 10 minutes figuring out how to make your own stuff. Lots of people in the community willing to help too, you like Oersteds hacks? and taking them and swapping the sprites right? I doubt he even wants to keep making them now because of the drama you needlessly started. You are involving your own feelings and ideals into something already established on every community hacking site, the norm is to get permission to take peoples stuff, if you go on FEuniverse, take another hacks portraits and sprites and just shove them into your hack without permission and upload it they would remove your hack. feuniverse.us/t/the-rules/5425 see the section that says "Post your own stuff" If you go to SMWcentral they literally state "Any SMW Central user, including SMW Central staff members, may update your file during a remoderation event or to correct explicit performance failures. For all other updates, your permission is required, unless your account is not active. For the purposes of this license, an "active account" is defined as any individual user's account which has been logged into at any point within the last six months as aligned with server time." www.smwcentral.net/?p=cms&page=1417699-site-wide-rules--terms-of-useIf you go to metroid constructions rules: forum.metroidconstruction.com/index.php/topic,3.0.html 7. No Plagiarism - This is a big one. We do not tolerate claiming one another's work as their own - be it a hack, patch, tileset, wallpaper, etcetera. If a claim of said crime comes up, we will investigate the matter as much as we possibly can and rule as thus. Violators should assume that they will receive some of the heaviest punishments available if they commit plagiarism in any form. Even RHDN specifies that they only >>BELIEVE<< there files are freeware, many of the things hosted on there aren't. Many hacks with unmodified sprites and music lifted from other games. This is how they protect themselves from the law, by saying that they are community maintained and that they believe everything on there is freeware. If the argument is that Oersteds hacks are freeware I doubt that is true considering they are characters owned by other game companies and the data for them is inside the patch posted on the website, that would apply to your sprite swaps of his hacks too. "Every contributor should be listed, including the single ‘members’ of label-groups like Aeon Genesis." From what I saw you did not credit Oersted properly either. If you had it should say: "Romhack made by Oersted, I just changed the sprites." On top of this though proper etiquette on RHDN when modifying someone else s hack is to make your changes on top of his hack (this is called an addendum), not take his hack, make your changes, and include both hacks in one patch as you have done.
I get the "Ohh I should be able to yoink whatever I want" mentality but I find it really immature to think that way. Lemme ask you, why do you think these websites all require you to get permission before you steal other peoples things? No, I didn't take Oersted's hacks, I changed the sprites and resubbed it, that's what he says, I changed sprites, changed skills, changed animations by setting speeds and changed other necessary character parameters, I used his hack just because I don't know how to remove Julius' whip, it's the only thing of my hacks that is from his hack. Not only I gave him credits saying that I had used his hack as a base but the first thing I did when I did it was to tell him, in fact if I had not given him credits I would not have told him nor he would have found out because my hacks as much as I have used the whip part to make them the rest is totally different, however he has been angry and lies saying that I did not give him credits, his drama is not my problem I did things right. The castlevania is not the first game for which I make mods and that the 1st rule is to ask permission I had never heard and in RDHN in the rules says that you have to give credits but nothing permission. I have used a hack of yours to make a bypass for the theme of the whip does not make mine plagiarism. precisely the fact that to make a hack we use characters from castlevania and other games without permission from their creators makes it very, very hypocritical for a moder to get angry for not asking permission. I have seen that there is tutorial to put the superjump but there is none for the latigo, before using another hack to make mine I was looking for, the hacks I make them to play and I upload them so that others can if they want because that is what the modder community is about, if they were simple resprites they would not be worth for me to play nor me And I repeat that I gave credit for what I used so I did not claim anything that I did not do as mine.
I don't know even one of those sites mentioned so I don't know why it would occur to me to look at them. . Those sites you never heard of are the biggest romhacking sites for each of those individual franchises, they are all way bigger then the CV hacking community. So let me get this straight, you didnt know how to make a change he made? and instead of just asking around for how to make the change or figuring out how to do it yourself you decided to download his hacks and use them as a base for your own hacks instead? Jeeez lol.
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Post by shametal on Dec 29, 2022 21:59:17 GMT
No, I didn't take Oersted's hacks, I changed the sprites and resubbed it, that's what he says, I changed sprites, changed skills, changed animations by setting speeds and changed other necessary character parameters, I used his hack just because I don't know how to remove Julius' whip, it's the only thing of my hacks that is from his hack. Not only I gave him credits saying that I had used his hack as a base but the first thing I did when I did it was to tell him, in fact if I had not given him credits I would not have told him nor he would have found out because my hacks as much as I have used the whip part to make them the rest is totally different, however he has been angry and lies saying that I did not give him credits, his drama is not my problem I did things right. The castlevania is not the first game for which I make mods and that the 1st rule is to ask permission I had never heard and in RDHN in the rules says that you have to give credits but nothing permission. I have used a hack of yours to make a bypass for the theme of the whip does not make mine plagiarism. precisely the fact that to make a hack we use characters from castlevania and other games without permission from their creators makes it very, very hypocritical for a moder to get angry for not asking permission. I have seen that there is tutorial to put the superjump but there is none for the latigo, before using another hack to make mine I was looking for, the hacks I make them to play and I upload them so that others can if they want because that is what the modder community is about, if they were simple resprites they would not be worth for me to play nor me And I repeat that I gave credit for what I used so I did not claim anything that I did not do as mine.
I don't know even one of those sites mentioned so I don't know why it would occur to me to look at them. . Those sites you never heard of are the biggest romhacking sites for each of those individual franchises, they are all way bigger then the CV hacking community. So let me get this straight, you didnt know how to make a change he made? and instead of just asking around for how to make the change or figuring out how to do it yourself you decided to download his hacks and use them as a base for your own hacks instead? Jeeez lol.
I've used only one hack of his, the one I saw that changed the least from the rest of the game apart from the character so literally the only thing I use from his hack is the theme of the whip, the rest is all done by me in my hacks and thanks to Masked Dedede with his superjump tutorial I can do that part. How do I find out for myself how to remove the whip if I don't know anything about HxD, it's not that I don't want to, it's that I haven't found anything... and honestly until recently I didn't even know about this forum I knew about RDHN I saw castlevania hacks and wanted to do them I also with characters that interested me, I don't know those other communities because I'm not interested in them, I don't see it as crazy. It never occurred to me to ask how to remove the whip, I asked it the other day and received no answer, and what was clear to me is that having a solution to make my mods I was not going to not make them |
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